Monday, January 10, 2011

EDU 202 Spring 2011 Ch. 10 Posts

Post your quetion, quote, and fact here.

22 comments:

  1. Quote: "By 2000, the lowest state contribution was 20%"(316).

    Fact: Of the 50 largest U.S. Cities, 17 have high school drop out rates lower than 50%.

    Question: Do you think that we should cut funding or extracurricular activities and force parents to privately seek those opportunites for students outside of the classroom?

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  2. What do you think should be a schools primary source of funding?

    John Dewey attacked vocational education saying, “the dominant vocation of all human beings at all times is living- intellectual and moral growth… To predetermine some future occupation for which education is to be a strict preparation is to injure the possibility of present development.”

    90% of 8th graders in the wealthiest communist were proficient on exams, whereas only 20% of 8th graders in the highest poverty schools scored proficient.

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  3. Question: Is there a specific scenario in which students benefit from tracking?

    Quote: Education, of course, is not among the rights afforded explicit protection under our Federal Constitution. Nor do we find any basis for saying it is implicitly so protected"(317).

    Fact: School systems across the state, Connecticut, spent an average of $147.68 per student per year on textbooks and instructional supplies.

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  4. Question: Do teachers sometimes get blamed for things when they are in the right?

    Quote: “Schools are meant to be ‘the sorting machine’”

    Fact: Almost every students’ from a wealthy community goes to high school, but only about 20% of students from high poverty areas go to high school.

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  5. Lots of good info in chapter 10, especially about the drop out rates. This brings me to my fact. The average high school drop out earns $19,000 dollars a year, compared to $28,000 for a high school graduate with no higher education. This is kind of a double edged sword. A graduate makes $9000 dollars more a year than a drop out. Thats quite a bit. Then again, to alot of people dropping out is more important than $9000 dollars a year.
    The question I raised from this chapter is "Are there any laws in place to keep students from dropping out? Has a court ever ordered someone to stay in school?"
    Finally my quote which is as insane as it reads. It is from Leonard Covello "What stands foremost in my mind concerning the decision was the indifference and the lack of guidance at the high school itself. I simply turned in my books at the school office and went away. That's all there was to it. No one spoe to me. No one asked me why I was leaving or discussed my problems with me." Its a real shame all these teachers don't seem to give a damn about much other than a paycheck. I'm not saying its their place to stop him from dropping out but the fact that they showed no concern at all is ridiculous.

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  6. Question: Do you think it is better to track students to help each level of intelligence improve, or to have one standard that all students should learn and apply to?

    Quote: "Why is school funding unequal? In many school districts, a significant amount of financial support comes from the local tax base. In wealthier areas, more education dollars are generated and thus the funding per student may be much higher, offering students more resources and attracting better teachers with better pay." (338)

    Fact: "The average high school dropout earns $19,000 a year, compared to $28,000 for a high school graduate with no higher education." (327)

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  7. Overall one question I have is a teacher is more likely to get in trouble over the little things. In the reading a male teacher was afraid to report a female student for the way she was dressed and how she violated the school code because he would be considered “looking”. How do we still do our job but also not cross the line? We learn how teachers must not discriminate or teacher different base upon gender or ethnicity but how do we also apply all the rules to each student equally but without being getting into trouble?

    On page 325 it says “About 1.2 million students drop out of school each year, or about 2500 each day.” Then is says that the US is ranked 10th in the world of high school graduation rates, to me this is amazing seeing as how we offer free education, and one of the top free countries in America. As teachers is there a way to fix this? I want to be a high school teacher meaning many of the students will be dropping out around the time I am teaching them. Is there a way to motivate them?

    “Hispanic students born within the United States were much less likely to drop out than those born outside the United States” (p.329) Which shows that we do not put enough effort or support in immigrants. We need to be fair, and at times we much stretch to help all student whether native born or not.

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  8. Fact-1.2 million students drop out of school each year.
    Question- What causes these students to drop out?
    Quote-"Industrial schools must beware of placing undue emphasis on the practical character of their work... the ideals of education, whether men are taught to teach or to plow, to weave or to write must not be allowed to sink to sordid utilitarianism. Education must keep broad ideals before it, and never forget that it is dealing with souls and not with dollars."

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  9. * Justice Powell- "Unsettled and disputed question whether the quality of education may be determined by the amount of money expended for it."
    * I cannot believe the stat that around 1.2 million students drop out of school each year, or about 2,500 each day. I think this is just ridiculous.
    * When all of the charts show that places with more money do better, how do teachers in low economic areas fight that?

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  10. Quote: "I simply dropped off my books at the school office and went away. That's all there was to it. No one spoke to me. No one asked me why I was leaving or discussed my problems with me." -Leonard Covello on dropping out

    Fact: Pages 336-337 have examples of ethical dilemmas that teachers go through. It surprised me to read some of the issues that actually take place in the schools because you never really think about those things happening.

    Question: Is it possible that the achievement gap is due to more than just income or voluntary segregation? Could it be that minorities score lower because tests aren't geared toward their best learning styles?

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  11. Question: What can be done to cut down on the drop out rate for students ages 16-24?
    Quote: Education, of course, is not among the rights afforded explicit protection under our federal constitution.
    Fact: In 1892, less than 10% of all youths ages 14-17 even attended high school.

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  12. Question: Why is Hawaii's school funding different than everyone elses?

    Quote: "This test-score gap is revealed in the fact that white students, on average, score 20 to 30 points higher than their black and Hispanic peers."

    Fact: Philadelphia, Tucson and Kansas City, Missouri have improved the most in graduation rates.

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  13. ?: Why is there an achievement gap?
    quote: "And while life was often hard and resources scarce, we always knew who we were and that the measure of our worth was inside our heads and hearts and not outside in our possessions or on our backs."
    -Marian Wright Edelman
    fact: About 1.2 million students drop out of school each year, or about 2,500 each day

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  14. Question: How do they expect schools in poverty areas to improve with low budgets?

    Quote: Despite 30 years of campaigns to equalize school funding, the most prosperous districts in some states spend a great deal more money on schools than do poor districts.

    Fact: The U.S. is ranked 10th in the world in graduation rates.

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  15. Fact: About 1.2 million students drop out of school each year, or about 2,500 each day. Kansas City is one of the cities that has improved the most in their graduation rate.

    Quote: "I am not encouraged to cite a female on dress code violations because that insinuates that I was looking."- Eric Steele, high school history teacher (pg 337)

    Question: If teachers push the reality of what staying in school and getting your degree can do for you, as opposed to dropping out and going straight into the work force, wouldn't that help the students want to stay in school and make them more motivated?

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  16. Fact-The chart on page 320 shows that students entaring high school who are proficent on Eight grade exams: ~95% are in wealthiest communities and 20% in high poverty schools.

    Question-Should we track students or not? and to what extent?

    Quote- "What kind of message do we send to these children? We are telling them that we dont value or care about them." pg 319

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  17. Question: If educators believe in giving all students equal education opportunities, then why do they use tracking?

    Quote:Stan Karp said, "Beneath the legal briefs, the legislative jargon...lie two central questions: Will we provide schools with resources they need to make high-quality education possible, and will we provide these resources to all children, or only some?" (320)

    Fact: About 1.2 million students drop out of school each year, or about 2,500 each day. (325)

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  18. Fact: About 1.2 million students drop out of school each year, or about 2,500 each day.

    Quote: "I'm home early due to budget cuts, the school district is laying off students"

    Question: Is "No child left behind" a good thing, or a bad thing for those students who are advanced?

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  19. Question:

    if schools get a lot of there income from sales taxes do online shopping effect the money given to schools?

    (random thought)

    Quote:

    "Beyond the bias built into law and clear poilcy, blacks also faced a more amorphous and less consious kind of discrimination, which become labeled "institional racism".


    Fact:
    The average high school drop out earns $19,000 a year, compared to 28,000 for a high school graduate with no higher education.

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  20. Question: Pg 348 Why have people (students) learned that it is taboo to talk about race in racially mixed setting?
    Quote: Pg 325 Education was designed to promote the common good and prepare children for participation in a democcratic society, more recent emphasis has been placed on what a graduate can "get out" of schooling in terms of income, power and status.
    Fact: Pg 329 68% of prison inmates in the US are high school (or earlier) drop outs.

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  21. Question: What is the solution to local tax funding for the issue of inequality?

    Fact: 25-30% of the nation’s 5th graders do not ever earn a high school diploma.

    Quote: Those who complain of tracking’s segregative impact do not usually attack bilingual or Title I programs for promoting ethnic and class segregation, no doubt because they see these programs as benefiting students. Tom Loveless

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  22. Question: if there is a certain test that all students have to pass in order for them to move to the next level, do you think the test will benefit all students way of learning?
    Quote:Education, of course, is not among the rights afforded explicit protection under our Federal Constitution. Nor do we find any basis for saying it is implicitly so protected"
    Fact:"The average high school dropout earns $19,000 a year, compared to $28,000 for a high school graduate with no higher education."

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