Monday, January 10, 2011

EDU 202 Spring 2011 Ch. 4 Posts

Post your question, quote, and fact here for Ch. 4.

26 comments:

  1. I have always loved school, I hated being sick (that always meant I had to miss a day), I love the teachers, the classrooms, the books. Everything about school I loved, that is how I knew I wanted to be a teacher. In chapter four at the beginning it talks about how some students do not want to be in school, how they are unwilling, unprepared, and less able. How do I as a teacher who loves every minute of school help the students that do not?
    “…and with or without bilingual classes, teachers must teach many children who arrive in school with little, if any, English.” (p111) Therefore would it be best to become bilingual? How do we teach when we don’t understand ourselves?
    An interesting fact I thought was in America we have had an open education program for about 40ish years (1970 was called “zero reject”). That is amazing considering my grandmother is older than that. I expected it to be much longer than that, considering America considers its self the freedom country and equality to everyone.

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  2. Quote: “We have room for but one language in this country and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality.”
    ---Theodore Roosevelt (Page 109)

    Fact: Prior to Title IX, girls who became pregnant were often forced to leave school or, at best, to attend segregated-and well hidden- classes. (Page 103)

    Question: On page 100, it discusses how many Americans dropped out before finishing high school due to not understanding instruction, a disability, or because they felt school was not for them. Why does it seem as though America is beginning to set this issue back in cycle?

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  3. Question: Why if you are not going to teach a language, would you need to know it?

    Quote: “Girls are the majority of our nation’s schoolchildren, yet they are second-class citizens.” (106)

    Fact: as late as the mid 1960’s, students received detention for being caught speaking Spanish in school.

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  4. Chapter 4 was full of excellent insight into this countries rapidly changed and still changing education system. I really enjoyed reading about the graduation rates of the past 100 years and how they have sky rocketed.
    The question I picked up on was "What are the ongoing debates over Bilingual Education?" This is a very important question because Race and Illegal Immigration are such a hot topic in this country that soon enough Elementary level education will have spanish language courses worked into it. I think that this question also greatly pertains to Education because most Teachers are not bilingual and this is still a hurdle that many Teachers face to day, just as they did 50+ years ago.
    My fact is not so surprising but it still peaked my interest. "Prior to Title 9 , girls who became pregnant were often forced to leave school" While being forced to leave school isnt at all surprising, what is is that this happened in the 1970's , a time of great change and civil actions.
    Finally my Quote is from The book "Failing at Fairness" By Myra and David Sadker. They reported that "Sitting in the same classroom, reading the same textbook, listening to the same teacher, boys and girls recieve very differnet educations." The reason I bring this quote up is because I completely disagree with it. Of all the teachers I have had in my 25 years, not one of them played to girls more than boys or vice versa. I'm not saying it doesn't happen , but I've been in educational training since I was 5 and not once have I ever witnessed a teacher putting boys before girls or girls before boys. It was interesting to see that another author disregarded this information as well.

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  5. Fact: 1974: "The U.S. Supreme Courint in Lau v. Nichols rules that schools must attend to the needs of stuents who do not speak English; programs for English language learners are no longer voluntary" (101).

    Question: Why do you think so many people forget that this country is comprised of nothing but immigrants?

    Quote: "Perhaps nowhere has the fight over an appropriate kind of bilingual education been more intense than in California" (111).

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  6. Question: Do boys-only and girls-only classes provide better instruction?

    Quote: Patricia Cayo Sexton says, "Despite some conspicuous problems, females are probably treated in a more egalitarian way in schools than in other institutions, including religious, familial, economic, and political institutions"(106).

    Fact: In 1870, only 2% of students graduated from high school. By 1970, that percentage had grown to more than 75%. At the beginning of the 20th century, only about 6% of students completed high school.

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  7. Quote: "As late as the mid-1960s, students received detention for being caught speaking Spanish in school."

    Fact: Many children are in bilingual programs for five to seven years and don't learn to write English until 4th or 5th grade.

    Question: I knew a girl that was placed placed in "special needs" classes because she faked learning difficulties so that she could get by doing easier work. How does something like this fool teachers, administrators, and parents?

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  8. Question: Should students who do not speak English be in bilingual programs or are they better served in short-term programs that will help transition them into regular classrooms as quickly as possible?
    Quote: “According to the National Education Association, public schools in the United States are now education more than half a million more students with disabilities than they did a decade ago.”
    Fact: “In 1664…at least 18 languages were spoken on Manhattan Island, not counting the Indian languages.”

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  9. Interesting: That court action was require to ensure everyone was treated fairly by the education system.
    Question: Is gender as much of a hinderance as race under the educational system at its present time?
    Fact: 1/3 of all students is California are learning to speak english.

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  10. ?: Between 1870 and 1970 the number of students that graduated high school increased a great deat each decade. Why have the numbers not gone up much since 1970? How can we as teachers and parents help get the graduated number to start increasing again?
    quote: "...The real story is not bad news about boys doing worse; it's good news about girls doing better."
    ~Sara Mead
    fact: Some boys view academic success as a sign of being weak or feminized.

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  11. Question:

    how do we to teachers make sure that kids in special education needs are fully meet?



    Quote:

    "no person in the United states shall , on the basis of sex, be excluded form the participation, be denied the benefits of, or be subject to discrimination under any education program or activity reciving federal financial assistance" -title IX, education amendments 1972




    Fact:

    "In 1870, only 2% of students graduated from high school, by 1970, that percentage had grown to more than 75%". but there was info barried in these statistics

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  12. Question- Should students who speak a native language be able to take it as a class and get credit. (ex. A Spanish speaking student taking Spanish)

    Quote- "Every teacher needs a strong foundation in special education."

    Fact- 17% of children have some type of developmental disability.

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  13. Question: Pg 111. How is it possible for teachers to teach English to students that speak a foreign language if that teacher does not also know the foreign language?
    Quote: Pg. 115. Language is a part of many peoples basic identity and it is wrong to demean it in any way.
    Fact: Pg. 109. Prior to 1973, it was a crime in Texas for a teacher to teach any language except English.

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  14. -Fact is approximately 17% of children have some type of developmental disability.
    -What is best education for children with disabilities?
    -Thomas Hehir said: "we can best frame the purpose of special education as minimizing the impact of disability and maximizing the opportunities for students with disabilities to participate in schooling and the community.

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  15. Quote:"The American taxpayer, while recognizing the existence of culture diversity, still wants the schools to be the basis of an American melting pot...What these children need is intensive instruction in English so that they may, as soon as possible, function with other children in regular school programs."

    Fact:In 1972, only about 294,000 American high schools girls took part in interscholastic sports;today, about 3 million girls play sports.

    Question:If there is such an increase in school courses when boys and girls are combined, then why do we still have some schools and classes that are segregated?

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  16. I was wondering what kind of ELL student programs Missouri has?

    Edith Green said, “All I want and all I ask is that if two individuals, a man and women, come to college or university and they have equal credentials and apply for admissions, that they shall be treated as equals.” I chose this quote because I think it shows how influential Edith Green was to the school systems.

    The fact that most surprised me was only 2% of students graduated from high school in 1870.

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  17. Question: how would be the best way to make your classroom an equal enviroment for all the students?

    Quote: "students do not fall through the cracks" pg 114

    Fact: girls who got pregnant were routinely expelled

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  18. Chapter 4 had many “controversial” topics in it. I was shocked when I read that in the 1960s schools gave “Spanish detention” to students who spoke anything other than English. I think it is so ridiculous to punish students for using their native language, which they have learned growing up. Although there is no longer “Spanish detention”, it is sad that there are still some Americans who are against bilingual education, and think that “everyone who comes to America should know English”. I’m sure everyone’s ancestors didn’t immediately know English when they came to America! Plus, isn’t our diversity increasing? We learn nothing from each other if we try to force everyone to be the same.
    Question: If coteaching is a successful method of reaching special education students, while making them feel equal to their peers, why isn’t it a more common practice?
    Edith Green made a good point when she said, “All I want and ask is that if two individuals, a man and a woman, come to college or university and they have equal credentials and apply for admissions, that they should be treated as equals.” (103). Although she was specifically talking about gender in this case, I agree and think that every person despite their gender, race, sexuality, religion, etc. should be treated as equals, even when it comes to applying for college. Society continues to have issues with the roles of girls and boys even outside of the classroom.
    Fact: In 1664, when the English conquered New Amsterdam and renamed it New York, at least 18 languages were spoken on Manhattan Island, not counting the Indian languages (108). It is awesome that even centuries ago, English was not the only language spoken in

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  19. Fact: In 1870 the graduation rate was %2. In 1970 it was 75.6%. This shows how important education got.

    Question: How would we, in America, ever solve the problem we have with all the bilingual languges we have? There's too many different ones to make everyone happy. So make everyone speak English since we are in America?

    Quote: "When a parent is unwilling to get children the services they need or the assessment they need because they dont want their kids to be labeled."

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  20. Fact: "California has the highest number of English language learners in the nation. One out of three students in that state is an English language learner." (111)

    Question: Should students that speak only English, be put at a disadvantage because of teachers spending extra time in the classroom trying to help people that are English Language Learners?

    Quote: "Zero reject. Every school district must provide a "free appropriate public education to every child in the district." No exceptions are allowed no matter what the range or severity of the child's disabilities." (116) I chose that quote because it makes me happy that everyone no matter their set backs, has the opportunity to increase their knowledge and receive some sort of education.

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  21. Question: isn't it kind of unfair and pointless to say put a Spanish speaking student in a Spanish class? This happened a lot at my highschool.

    Quote: "students received detention for being caught speaking Spanish in school."

    Fact: 1/3 of all students in Cali are learning to speak Spanish

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  22. Carrie Stewart Jensen posted the blog dated 2-6-11 at 8:35

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  23. Question: Why were girls basically asked to leave school if they became pregnant?
    Quote: In 1969, it was perfectly legal to discriminate in any education program against girls or women.
    Fact: There are 8 million handicapped children in the U.s.

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  24. The fact that I found interesting in this chapter was the breakdown of the different immigrants locations and the parental education acquired by these families. An influx of immigrants from Asian countries with doctorates is not what I think of when I think of multicultural immigrants. The question that keeps going through my mind is, "Is there any sane way that a teacher can realistically learn all there is to know about all the different cultures represented in this country and teach about them in their classroom and still have any time left over for teaching all the material that will be on the upcoming state Benchmark?" The quote I choose is from the 'readings' section at the end of the chapter.
    "Our findings, as well as those from several other studies suggest that becoming Americanized is detrimental to youngsters' achievement, and terrible for their overall mental health."

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