Monday, January 10, 2011

EDU 202 Spring 2011 Ch. 11 Posts

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23 comments:

  1. Quote: "...the way to achieve a system of determining admission to the public schools on a non-racial basis is to stop assigning students on a racial basis"(352).

    Question: How can we, as teachers, let our government officials know what is important to us?

    Fact: Despite all of the controversy, in the vast majority of states, and in nearly all of the largest districts, biology is taught in ways that include scientific evolution.

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  2. Question: Should the government be able to push states into no child left behind?

    Quote: “the most visible one of all in many schools- to make a statement, to pose questions, to speak out on an issue, to bring kids’ lives into classrooms or hallways.”

    Fact: Teacher are hired at the local level. Neither the state nor the federal government hires teachers

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  3. Question: What is role of state and local government in education?
    Quote:"It may be that you have to start with something small and seemingly insignificant-like bulletin boards, the most visible one of all in many schools-to make a statement to pose questions, to speak out on an issue to bring kids' lives into classrooms or hallways."
    Fact:There are 15,000 school boards today.

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  4. 1. Do you think the school system is the best way to resolve educational debates?

    2. Deborah Meier insisted, “We need to return schools to our fellow citizens-yes, ordinary citizens, with all their warts. The solution to the messiness of democracy is more of it-and more time set aside to make it work… That’s what local school boards are intended to all about. If we can’t trust ordinary citizens with matters of local k-12 schooling, whatever can we trust them with?”

    3. I found it interesting that the Detroit lost about half of their students in the public school system from 2001 to 2010.

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  5. Chapter 11 was very short compared to the rest but somehow it seemed to contain more information than alot of the previous chapters we read.

    My fact that I found interesting is that President Obama made a significant promise to improve education and when he took office , there was enough funds being shifted to education to start to make a dent in some of there problems.

    My question was is about No Child left Behind, What sort of progress or lack there of has NCLB created? Has it helped/ improved the schools at all or was it a miserable failure?

    Finally my quote is from Deborah Meier when she speaks on putting school control back in the hands of the citizens.
    "We need to return schools to our fellow citizens - yes, ordinary citizens, with all their warts. The solution to the messiness of democracy is more of it - and more time set aside to make it work...
    Thats what local school boards are intended to be all about. If we can't trust ordinary citizens with matters of local K-12 schooling, whatever can we trust them with?"
    I use this quote because , like with so many other things, it seems the government just doesn't know where to draw the line and stop messing with things they don't really need to.

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  6. Question: pg. 381 The prospect of inevitaldet widespread failure has led some observest researchers to assert that the real goal of NCLB is the destruction of public schools? Is this possible?
    Quote:pg 370 Ramon Cortines is superintendent of The Los Angeles Unified School District, the second largest school district in the U.S., when asked what he does,his answer is always "I'm a teacher."
    Fact:pg. 374 Although they are located within the wealthest nation on earth,many inner city communities have not been able to attract the capital needed to bring about economics growth+ social stability? In fact, on a number of indicator-infant mortality, homicide and the rate of HIV infection-conditions in economically depressed urban area of the U.S. often rival conditions in the third world.

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  7. Quote: "[T]he educational foundations of our society are presently being eroded by a rising tide of mediocrity." -Ronald Reagan

    Fact: Only a dozen or so states will benefit from Obama's Race to the Top program.

    Question: Because education is effected by so many changes in legislation, how can students be taught consistency in their learning patterns?

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  8. ?: Should decisions about curriculum be made at the national, state, or local level?
    quote: "...I know that education is the only valid passport from poverty."
    ~President Lyndon Johnson
    fact: The number of students attending the Detroit public school has declined sharply over the past decade.

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  9. After reading chapter 11 I was amazed by how much politics really do intervene in education, I never made the connection before. One question that I had was if majority of the decisions we make are political, how do we know we are making the right political choices? An example given it said that choosing to have valentine cards instead of black history month was a political choice, is it okay not to celebrate black history month? Is that racist?

    What if a student says a racist comment but then rebuttals with its freedom of speech? How does the teacher get around correctly the first amendment? The law says “free speech, did not end at the schoolhouse door” (p. 354).

    “If schools fail to make AYP (as defined by their state) for 2 years in a row, parents must be notified of their right to send their children to a non-failing public school in the same district” (p. 358).

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  10. Question: Will education and politics always be interconnected?

    Quote: President Obama says that, "He supports the goals of NCLB- high standards and careful attention to the achievement of different groups of students"(359).

    Fact: There are 15,000 school boards governing districts as large as some of the nation's biggest cities and as small as districts that have one elementary school.

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  11. Quote: "[o]ur Nation is at risk... [T]he educational foundations of our society are presently being eroded by a rising tide of mediocrity..." -Ronald Reagan (355)

    Fact: "In 1930, there were 200,000 school boards, compared with 15,000 today." (367)

    Question: Do you see education heading the "right" direction, or do you see many problems and it heading down the "wrong" direction?

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  12. *Bob Peterson"All teaching is political whether we're conscious of it or not. We all make political decisions every day in the classroom...we should do things self consciously and recognize the political nature of our work."
    *How does a teacher go about making political choices in the classroom, while keeping everyone happy?
    *(for the NCLB) Each state was given the responsibility for setting its own specific subject matter and for developing a clear and specific definition of adequate yearly progress, which each school should achieve.

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  13. Question: How do you judge which political decisions to make without upsetting anyone?
    Quote: In 1983, the National Commission on Excellence in Education said, “Our nation is at risk…The educational foundations of our society are presently being eroded by a rising tide of mediocrity.” (355)
    Fact: There are 15,000 school boards governing districts as large as some of the nation’s biggest cities and as small as districts that have only one elementary school. (365)

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  14. Question: Should questions about curriculum be made at the national, state, or local level?

    Quote: "I'm working hard to fix up your classrooms and get you the books, equipment and computers you need to learn. But you've got to do your part too. So I expect you to get serious this year. I expect you to put your best effort into everything you do."

    Fact: In 1930, there were 200,000 school boards, compared with 15,000 today.

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  15. Question: What are the benchmark requirerments for the NCLB? How attainable are they?

    Fact: If a sxhool fails to make AYP (as defined by their state) for 2 years in a row, parents must be notified of their right to send their childern to a nonfailing public school in the same distric.

    Quote: "It is far from apparent the coerced racial mixing has any educational benifits, much less that integration in necessary to BLack acheivement" Justice Clarence Thomas

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  16. Question: Which has more of an impact federal or state government?

    Quote: For better or worse, politics at the federal and local levels play a major role in education.

    Fact: In 1930, there were 200,000 school boards, compared with 15,000 today.

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  17. Question:

    I no child left behind Good or bad?

    Quote:

    "in Alabama, for example, as recently as 2005, the state board of education voted to continue requiring a disclaimer in biology textbooks describing evolution as a "controversial theory" (363).



    Fact:

    One of the major development in education since the mid- 1980s was led by a group of educators who were skeptical of what the federal government could do to improve schools. These critic sought to create " charter" schools and educational vouchers that would allow parents to take the funds a public school might receive for their child's education to any private school they selected (357).

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  18. Fact: A highly qualified teacher: as defined by No Child Left Behind standards, a high qualified teacher is one who holds a bachelor's degree, full state certification, or licensure, and verifiable knowledge of the subject taught.

    Quote: "All teaching is political whether we're conscious of it or not. We all make political decisions every day in the classroom. If we decide to put up a Halloween bulletin board instead of a bulletin board that indicates Christopher Columbus for being a war criminal, that's a political decision. If we decide to make a Valentine's Day hearts with kids instead of celebrating Black History Month, that's a political decision."

    Question: After reading the definition of a highly qualified teacher, it seems like anyone that is a teacher with a degree is qualified for that title.. Why aren't the qualifications higher since every teacher should have some sort of degree?

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  19. Fact: For 2006-2007 410 new charter schools opened their doors.

    Question: If a well intended program such as NCLB can’t succeed what is the answer?

    Quote: If – and that’s a big if – we accept the limitations of our evaluative capabilities, and if we get beyond the magical thinking of NCLB’s punishment-driven philosophy, then we can make the law live up to its liberal promises. Scott F. Abernathy

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  20. Quote: “Blood will run in the streets if anyone attempted to integrate the school and called out the state units of the National Guard to block African American students, even though they had a federal court order demanding their admission.”

    Fact: Only a dozen schools will benefit from President Obama’s promise of $4.3 billion in grants to states that are aggressively working to improve student achievement, foster innovation, open more charter schools, and turn around failing schools. Some states have been told that they are not eligible to even apply.

    Question: Does higher education really make for a qualified teacher, and who or what determines a qualified teacher?

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  21. fact: the halting a collapse artical was just crazy.
    Question: why is politics so involved in education?
    Quote: " do you think that you would be able to do your work if every night your mother was bringinb a differnt man into your house to have sex and smoke crack?" pg 368

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  22. Question: Is the court system the best way to resolve educational issues?
    Quote: I'm working hard to fix up the classrooms to get you the books, equipment and computers you need to learn, but you have to do your part.
    Fact: In Detroit in 2001, there were 162,000 students, in 2010 that number dropped to 83,777.

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  23. Question: Politically how do you make certain judgements in the classroom in the educational field without getting everyone's approval?
    Quote: "It may be that you have to start with something small and seemingly insignificant-like bulletin boards, the most visible one of all in many schools-to make a statement to pose questions, to speak out on an issue to bring kids' lives into classrooms or hallways."
    Fact:only a dozen states will benefit from Obamas race to the top program.

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